1:36 a.m.
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:20:00AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
I might add that virt-rescue now gets much further
than I have ever seen before... it shows a line
[ 245.032513] vda: vda1 vda2
before hanging forever. So it at least has gotten
to the point of recognizing the partitions on the
virtual disk I want to access.
This hang is also characteristic of the ADFS problem.
I don't think anything is going to change until someone fixes this
kernel bug.
Rich.
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7:08 a.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 07:36:24AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:20:00AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
> I might add that virt-rescue now gets much further
> than I have ever seen before... it shows a line
> [ 245.032513] vda: vda1 vda2
>
> before hanging forever. So it at least has gotten
> to the point of recognizing the partitions on the
> virtual disk I want to access.
This hang is also characteristic of the ADFS problem.
I don't think anything is going to change until someone fixes this
kernel bug.
Is there more than one facit to this bug? The reports I've found all
seems to say it is with a blank disk. In this case the virtual
disk is partitioned and has a valid ext4 and a swap partition
on it and only lacks the boot MBR and grub set up.
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 01:08:20PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 07:36:24AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:20:00AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
> > I might add that virt-rescue now gets much further
> > than I have ever seen before... it shows a line
> > [ 245.032513] vda: vda1 vda2
> >
> > before hanging forever. So it at least has gotten
> > to the point of recognizing the partitions on the
> > virtual disk I want to access.
>
> This hang is also characteristic of the ADFS problem.
>
> I don't think anything is going to change until someone fixes this
> kernel bug.
Is there more than one facit to this bug? The reports I've found all
seems to say it is with a blank disk. In this case the virtual
disk is partitioned and has a valid ext4 and a swap partition
on it and only lacks the boot MBR and grub set up.
Although I can easily reproduce this bug, I'm not 100% clear about
when it happens.
Certainly, it happens with a blank disk.
Also, it happens with a disk containing a single partition that has a
filesystem on it. It hangs, and then (240 seconds later) has the same
stack trace, so it appears to be the same bug. Why exactly it should
happen in this case is not understood.
I've not tried it with 2 x partitions on a disk.
Rich.
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11:35 a.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 01:08:20PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 07:36:24AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 12:20:00AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
> > I might add that virt-rescue now gets much further
> > than I have ever seen before... it shows a line
> > [ 245.032513] vda: vda1 vda2
> >
> > before hanging forever. So it at least has gotten
> > to the point of recognizing the partitions on the
> > virtual disk I want to access.
>
> This hang is also characteristic of the ADFS problem.
>
> I don't think anything is going to change until someone fixes this
> kernel bug.
Is there more than one facit to this bug? The reports I've found all
seems to say it is with a blank disk. In this case the virtual
disk is partitioned and has a valid ext4 and a swap partition
on it and only lacks the boot MBR and grub set up.
Then I have just now confirmed that this problem goes
deeper and may be different than what people have been
thinking.
I tried virt-rescue just now on a working VM that uses
partitions vda1-6, ie 3 primary and two extended, where
one extended partition is a swap disk, all others are
ext3 or 4 and the MBR is valid and functioning.
It locks up at exactly the same point. I'm going to just
confirm that the VM in question still works since I had
not run it in a couple weeks. I will get back shortly
with that confirmation.
11:54 a.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 05:35:17PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
It locks up at exactly the same point. I'm going to just
confirm that the VM in question still works since I had
not run it in a couple weeks. I will get back shortly
with that confirmation.
Nope. Started the same VM up remotely from virt-manager
with nary a hiccup.
12:03 p.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 05:54:32PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 05:35:17PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
> It locks up at exactly the same point. I'm going to just
> confirm that the VM in question still works since I had
> not run it in a couple weeks. I will get back shortly
> with that confirmation.
Nope. Started the same VM up remotely from virt-manager
with nary a hiccup.
Whether the VM starts or not has no relationship to the kernel bug.
libguestfs (including virt-rescue) boots its own appliance using the
host kernel, which on Ubuntu suffers from this bug.
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12:12 p.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 06:03:37PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Whether the VM starts or not has no relationship to the kernel bug.
libguestfs (including virt-rescue) boots its own appliance using the
host kernel, which on Ubuntu suffers from this bug.
I might take it up with LKML then, because as you
noted earlier the Debian kernel has the problem
also, and Debian tends to be a relatively standard
build.
I'm wondering if perhaps the solution to my problem
might be to use virt-manager to 'build' a machine with
knoppix and attach it to the target. Or else pregen
grub1, grub2 and lilo VM's that can attach to a disk
on which grub1, grub2 or lilo needs to be installed to
the boot block. I fear it will require at least two
VM's because you cannot repair a grub1 host from a
grub2 and vice versa.
12:16 p.m.
New subject: [rjones@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 06:12:18PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 06:03:37PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Whether the VM starts or not has no relationship to the kernel bug.
> libguestfs (including virt-rescue) boots its own appliance using the
> host kernel, which on Ubuntu suffers from this bug.
I might take it up with LKML then, because as you
noted earlier the Debian kernel has the problem
also, and Debian tends to be a relatively standard
build.
This happens on a standard, upstream Linux kernel, and has nothing to
do with Debian or Ubuntu. Please follow the description on the BZ:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42778
You should start by CC-ing yourself on the bug.
Rich.
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