I spent the last couple of days rethinking how we go about building the appliance, and the difficulties we have porting that to other Linux distros. I've come up with a much better way that works better and faster on (so far) Fedora and Debian (probably on Ubuntu too, not tried it), and should be much simpler to port to other distros. The current way is to do: +------------------+ +-----------------+ | febootstrap/ | | | | debootstrap | | extract list of | | install packages |---------->| installed files | | in a chroot | | | +------------------+ +-----------------+ ^ | | | | | | V +------------------+ +--------------------------+ | list of | | calculate supermin | | packages | | base image and hostfiles | +------------------+ +--------------------------+ You might be able to see from the way I've drawn the diagram that there is an obvious thing we've been missing: Go directly from the list of packages we want to install, to the supermin appliance base image and hostfiles. In RPM terms, all we need to do is to "rpm -qlp" (find out what files are in the RPMs). +------------------+ +--------------------------+ | list of | ========> | calculate supermin | | packages | | base image and hostfiles | +------------------+ +--------------------------+ This completely eliminates fakeroot, fakechroot, {fe,de}bootstrap, debirf from the equation, and means that we can support any packaging system provided it supports some set of basic operations like downloading packages and listing files from packages. The details are more complex (only a little), but I have reimplemented febootstrap as a general cross-distro supermin appliance building tool, with working backends for YUM/RPM and Debian/APT/dpkg. I'll be pushing patches to implement this over the next few days, so everything will be in flux for a while. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/ See what it can do: http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/recipes.html