Re: [Libguestfs] [v2v PATCH 4/4] convert_linux: install the QEMU guest agent with a firstboot script

On 06/09/22 16:11, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Very possible, but for all practical intents and purposes, we consider an OS to be "online" once name resolution works as well. It's extremely rare that applications connect to hosts directly by numerical IP addresses. There is no separate tool to check for DNS functionality (that I know of) similar to nm-online, so it should absolutely be nm-online's responsibility. Meanwhile, independently, on tech-list, I've found mention of the following two files: https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt http://static.redhat.com/test/rhel-networkmanager.txt and a reference: https://git.centos.org/rpms/NetworkManager/blob/c9/f/SOURCES/20-connectiv... I have no idea how this factors (if at all) into "nm-online". Should we try to access these files with "curl -I" directly? I've run a web search for "https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt", some results: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/networkmanager-sends-packets-when-idle-mo... https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/6jk62f/how_can_i_stop_fedora_fro... https://forums.whonix.org/t/disable-sys-net-pings-to-fedoraproject-org/1952 It looks like NetworkManager keeps (infrequently) pinging "https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt" in the background, and then (at best!) "nm-online" *could* (I guess!) fetch the result of the latest access. IOW, if nm-online is associated at all with this URL, it is a very indirect association (both spatially, i.e., it's not nm-online itself doing the access, and in time, i.e. nm-online relies on a potentially stale result; TOCTTOU). However valid or reliable this URL could be, it's still one central URL, and (as the above example shows) users do consider it "phoning home". Thanks, Laszlo