10:22 a.m.
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 5:38 PM Eric Blake <eblake(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 8/5/20 9:10 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 04:49:04PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:
>> I see, can change the python plugin to support multiple connections to imageio
>> using SERIALIZE_REQUESTS?
>>
>> The GiL should not limit us since the GIL is released when you write to
>> imageio socket, and this is likely where the plugin spends most of the time.
>
> It's an interesting question and one I'd not really considered at all.
> Does the Python GIL actively mutex different threads if they call into
> Python code at the same time? If it's truly a lock, then it should,
> in which case it should be safe to change the Python plugin to
> PARALLEL ...
>
> I'll try it out and get back to you.
Yeah, I would not be surprised if we could make the Python plugin more
performant, but matching our glue code to the python docs for embedding
with C code is not trivial, so I haven't spent the time trying.
Using multiple threads is easy when you call C from pyhton. I'm not sure
how it can work when you embed python into C.
When the python pwrite() is called, the C extension is holding the GIL.
When pwrite call socket.send() python will release the GIL.
Theoretically, the thread that called pwrite is blocked and another thread
can call Python C API, but it may also break horribly if the blocked thread
modified some global state and is not expecting other code to run until the
python code returns. I never tried to do this.
A better way is to separate the management code (using oVirt python SDK)
from the transfer code (using http client). The management code should run
before the transfer, setting up the transfer, and after the transfer
(finalling it).
The transfer code can be written in C using libcurl using parallel mode.
> Also NBD lets you multiplex commands on a single connection
(which
> does not require multi-conn or --shared).
>
> BTW I found that multi-conn is a big win with the Linux kernel NBD
> client.
>
>> We use 4 connections by default, giving about 100% speed up compared
>> with one connection. 2 connections give about 80% speed up. If the
>> number of connections is related to the number of coroutines, you
>> can use -m 4 to use 4 coroutines.
>>
>> Using -W will improve performance. In this mode every coroutine will
>> do the I/O when it is ready, instead of waiting for other coroutines
>> and submit the I/O in the right order.
>
> I think Eric might have a better idea about what -m and -W really do
> for qemu NBD client. Maybe improve multiplexing? They don't enable
> multi-conn :-(
Correct. Using -W doesn't make sense without -m (if you only have one
worker, you might as well proceed linearly than trying to randomize
access, but even when you have multiple threads, there are cases where
linear operations are still useful, such as 'nbdkit streaming'. But -m
is definitely the knob that controls how many outstanding I/O requests
qemu-img is willing to use; and once you are using -m, using -W makes
life easier for those coroutines to stay active. The default -m1 says
that at most one request is outstanding, so parallelism in the server is
not utilized. With higher -m, qemu-img issues up to that many requests
without waiting for server answers, but all on the same NBD connection.
Ideally, you'll get the maximum behavior as 'qemu-img -m' and 'nbdkit
--threads' choose the same values; if either side has fewer in-flight
operations permitted than the other, then that side has the potential to
become a bottleneck. Right now, nbdkit defaults to 16 threads (that is,
up to 16 in-flight operations) for any PARALLEL plugin.
And someday, I'd love to improve nbdkit's PARALLEL mode to make its
thread-pool more of an on-demand setup (right now, we pre-create all 16
threads up front, even if the client never reaches 16 in-flight
operations at once, which is a bit wasteful), but other than potential
performance improvements, it should be a transparent change to both
plugins and clients.
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Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
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