Now this is a tricky patch. In Ubuntu everything uses upstart and the udev script in particular has been converted to use upstart. The problem with this is that upstart isn't running, can't be run, and isn't desirable for minimal appliances even if we could run it. There is no alternative non-upstart way to start udev. Hence we start udev by hand with a sequence of commands, roughly based on 'start_udev' that Fedora ships, but greatly simplified. These commands seem to be the minimal ones which are necessary to start udevd, although in fine tradition nothing is documented anywhere. I haven't tested whether this sequence of commands is suitable for Fedora or Debian yet. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 80 OCaml packages (the OPEN alternative to F#) http://cocan.org/getting_started_with_ocaml_on_red_hat_and_fedora